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TANGLE TALK

"ONCE THERE WAS A BITTLE LUM SITTING ON A STURB CONE,
CHEWING A GUNK OF HUM. ALONG CAME A MOLICE PAN-SIMMIE
GOME! SIMMIE GOME! NOT BY A SARN DITE SAID THE BITTLE
LUM. SO THE MOLICE PAN SHOOK THE BITTLE LUM AND OUT
CAME THE GUNK OF HUM ON THE STURB CONE."

Where learned: UNIVERSITY OF DETROIT ; RENO HALL

Keyword(s): TONGUE

Subject headings: SPEECH -- Formula

Date learned: 10-18-1971

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PROVERB

LITTLE STROKES FELL GREAT OAKS.

Data entry tech comment:

Motifs added by TRD

Where learned: UNIVERSITY OF DETROIT ; RENO HALL

Keyword(s): Chop ; Cut ; Oak ; PATIENCE ; PERSEVERANCE ; Tree

Subject headings: PROVERB -- Proverbial Metaphor

Date learned: 11-21-1968

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BELIEF CONCERNING BIRTH

IF A GIRL IS BORN WITH A WIDOW'S PEAK,
IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE A SIGN OF ROYALTY.

Where learned: MICHIGAN ; UNIVERSITY OF DETROIT ; DETROIT ; DORM ROOM

Keyword(s): HAIRLINE

Subject headings: BELIEF -- Body part Senses Hair, on head, mustache, widow's peak
BELIEF -- Birth

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MARBLES

IT'S CUSTOMARY TO SHOOT MARBLES ON GOOD FRIDAY. ( IT IS ) FOLLOWED
QUITE RIGOROUSLY BY YOUNGER BOYS.

Submitter comment: ( THIS IS A CUSTOM IN THE ) BAHAMAS.

Data entry tech comment: MARBLES ARE ALSO PLAYED IN SUSSEX, ENGLAND ON GOOD FRIDAY. IT HAS
BEEN SUGGESTED THAT IT SIGNIFIES THE THROWING OF DICE DURING THE
CRUCIFIXION.

Where learned: MICHIGAN ; UNIVERSITY OF DETROIT ; DETROIT ; DORM ROOM

Subject headings: 663 Good Friday
Favorites
Ballad Song Dance Game Music Verse -- Special Object or Implement

Date learned: 02-04-1972

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ST. PATRICK AND THE SNAKES

IN IRELAND WHEN ALL WERE PAGAN, AND CELTIC PRIESTS WERE
IN CHARGE, THERE CAME A CHRISTIAN PRIEST FROM FRANCE--
A HANDSOME, TALL, AND LEAN PERSON BY THE NAME OF
PATRICK. THERE HAD BEEN A TERRIBLE PLAGUE OF VIPERS
FOR A LONG TIME, A PUNISHMENT FROM GOD. PATRICK
WALKED INTO THE MAIN CITY AND INTO THE HIGH TEMPLE.
HE WENT UP TO THE ALTAR OF THE CELTIC PRIESTS AND
EXTENDED HIS STAFF OVER IT, AND THEREUPON IT
CRUMBLED. HE BLESSED HIMSELF AND DEDICATED THE TEMPLE
TO GOD; AND THEY SAY AT THAT MOMENT THE VIPERS WENT
INTO THE SEA AND DROWNED. ST. PATRICK THEN WENT OUT
AND CONVERTED MILLIONS.

Submitter comment: I HAD FIRST HEARD ABOUT THE STORY OF ST. PATRICK AND
THE SNAKES FROM ONE OF MY FORMER INFORMANTS, JOHN
GRIFFIN, WHO DIDN'T KNOW THE WHOLE STORY, BUT TOLD ME
ABOUT JOHN WHOM HE THOUGHT WOULD KNOW THE WHOLE STORY.
JOHN TOLD ME THE STORY AND AFTERWARDS TOLD ME HOW THE
VIPERS REPRESENT DEVILS AND ST. PATRICK'S STAFF
REPRESENTS A PHALLIC SYMBOL, WHICH HAS POWER OVER THE
VIPERS.

Where learned: MICHIGAN ; UNIVERSITY OF DETROIT ; RENO HALL ; DETROIT

Subject headings: PROSE NARRATIVE -- Religious hero

Date learned: 10-01-1968

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WHEN A FLEMISH WOMAN PUTS THE FINGER NEXT TO HER
THUMB (INDEX FINGER) IN THE PALM OF A GUY'S HAND,
SHE WANTS TO GO TO BED WITH HIM.

Where learned: MICHIGAN ; UNIVERSITY OF DETROIT ; DETROIT ; DORM ROOM

Keyword(s): INTERCOURSE

Subject headings: CUSTOM FESTIVAL -- Marriage
SPEECH -- Wishes Wants Desires Predictions

Date learned: 11-13-1969

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LEGEND OF WARDING OFF A BEATING

WHEN YOU DO SOMETHING WRONG
AND YOU DON'T WANT TO BE BEATEN BY YOUR MOTHER
PULL OUT ONE OF YOUR EYELASHES AND PUT IT UNDER A ROCK.
IT MUST BE A ROCK OR IT IS NO GOOD.

Submitter comment: INFORMANT SAID HE TRIED IT UNDER A CONCK SHELL AND IT DID'NT WORK.

Where learned: MICHIGAN ; UNIVERSITY OF DETROIT ; DETROIT ; DORM ROOM

Keyword(s): CONCH SHELL

Subject headings: BELIEF -- Body part Senses Hair, on head, mustache, widow's peak

Date learned: 01-26-1972

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ST. PATRICK AND THE SNAKES

IN IRELAND WHEN ALL WERE PAGAN, AND CELTIC PRIESTS WERE
IN CHARGE, THERE CAME A CHRISTIAN PRIEST FROM FRANCE--
A HANDSOME, TALL, AND LEAN PERSON BY THE NAME OF
PATRICK. THERE HAD BEEN A TERRIBLE PLAGUE OF VIPERS
FOR A LONG TIME, A PUNISHMENT FROM GOD. PATRICK
WALKED INTO THE MAIN CITY AND INTO THE HIGH TEMPLE.
HE WENT UP TO THE ALTAR OF THE CELTIC PRIESTS AND
EXTENDED HIS STAFF OVER IT, AND THEREUPON IT
CRUMBLED. HE BLESSED HIMSELF AND DEDICATED THE TEMPLE
TO GOD; AND THEY SAY AT THAT MOMENT THE VIPERS WENT
INTO THE SEA AND DROWNED. ST. PATRICK THEN WENT OUT
AND CONVERTED MILLIONS.

Submitter comment: I HAD FIRST HEARD ABOUT THE STORY OF ST. PATRICK AND
THE SNAKES FROM ONE OF MY FORMER INFORMANTS, JOHN
GRIFFIN, WHO DIDN'T KNOW THE WHOLE STORY, BUT TOLD ME
ABOUT JOHN WHOM HE THOUGHT WOULD KNOW THE WHOLE STORY.
JOHN TOLD ME THE STORY AND AFTERWARDS TOLD ME HOW THE
VIPERS REPRESENT DEVILS AND ST. PATRICK'S STAFF
REPRESENTS A PHALLIC SYMBOL, WHICH HAS POWER OVER THE
VIPERS.

Where learned: MICHIGAN ; UNIVERSITY OF DETROIT ; RENO HALL ; DETROIT

Subject headings: PROSE NARRATIVE -- Religious hero

Date learned: 10-01-1968

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CHRISTMAS CUSTOM

IT IS TRADITIONAL IN THE SUZIO FAMILY, THAT DURING ADVENT, ALL GOOD
DEEDS ARE REWARDED WITH A LITTLE STAR DRAWN ON A SHEET OF PAPER
HANGING ON A DOOR. EACH CHILD TRIES TO GET AS MANY OF THESE STARS,
AND THUS BE AS GOOD AS THEY POSSIBLY CAN BECAUSE ON CHRISTMAS EVE
LITTLE SCROLLS, TIED WITH RIBBONS, CONTAINING ALL THE STARS THEY
MERITED, ARE CARRIED IN A PROCESSION TO THE CRIB UNDER THE CHRISTMAS
TREE. EACH CHILD WANTS TO HAVE THE BEST GIFT POSSIBLE, SO THEY WORK
AS HARD AS THEY CAN.

Where learned: MICHIGAN ; UNIVERSITY OF DETROIT ; DETROIT ; DORM ROOM

Subject headings: 645 September 23 Equinox to December 20
CUSTOM FESTIVAL -- December 21 solstice to March 20 Manger scenes
CUSTOM FESTIVAL -- December 21 solstice to March 20 Christmas tree

Date learned: 11-12-1969

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RIDDLE

HOW COME SMOKEY THE BEAR'S WIFE CAN NOT GET PREGNANT?
ANSWER: EVERY TIME SHE GETS HOT, HE HITS HER WITH A SHOVEL.

Data entry tech comment: SMOKEY THE BEAR IS A TELEVISION COMMERCIAL CHARACTER USED ;

Where learned: UNIVERSITY OF DETROIT ; RENO HALL

Subject headings: RIDDLE -- Riddle Question

Date learned: 09-28-1972

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CONFUSCIOUS SAY

Historical record from James Callow Folklore Archive.

CONFUSCIOUS SAY:
HE WHO LAY GIRL ON GROUND FIND PEACE ON EARTH.

Where learned: MICHIGAN ; UNIVERSITY OF DETROIT ; DETROIT ; DORM ROOM

Keyword(s): HUMOR SEX METONYMY

Subject headings:

Date learned: 12-00-1968

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TONGUE TWISTERS

RUBBER BABY BUGGY BUMPERS.

Where learned: MICHIGAN ; UNIVERSITY OF DETROIT ; DETROIT ; DORM

Subject headings: Ballad Song Dance Game Music Verse -- Speech Speech

Date learned: 10-18-1971

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RIDDLE

WHAT IS SMOKEY THE BEAR'S MIDDLE NAME? ANSWER: THE.

Data entry tech comment: SMOKEY THE BEAR IS A TELEVISION COMMERCIAL CHARACTER USED ;

Where learned: UNIVERSITY OF DETROIT ; RENO HALL

Subject headings: RIDDLE -- Riddle Question

Date learned: 09-28-1972

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THE VERGER

A CERTAIN MAN WAS A SEXTANT (JANITOR) IN A SYNAGOGUE.
THE SYNAGOGUE GOT A NEW RABBI AND, BECAUSE THE SEXTANT
COULDN'T READ OR WRITE, THE RABBI ASKED HIM TO LEAVE.
AS HE WALKED HOME DOWN A LONG STREET, HE HAD A
CRAVING TO BUY SOME TOBACCO, BUT HE WASN'T ABLE TO
FIND A TOBACCO SHOP. WELL, THIS MAN HAD A LITTLE
MONEY SAVED UP, SO HE OPENED UP A TOBACCO SHOP.
IT SO HAPPENED THAT EVERY TIME THIS MAN WENT DOWN
A LONG STREET HE OPENED UP ANOTHER TOBACCO SHOP.
AFTER BECOMING QUITE RICH, HE FINALLY DECIDED TO GO
TO THE BANK. WHEN HE ARRIVED AT THE BANK, HE FOUND
OUT HE HAD TO SIGN A FORM IN ORDER TO DEPOSIT HIS
MONEY. AFTER TELLING THE CASHIER THAT HE COULDN'T
READ OR WRITE, THE CASHIER SAID, "WHAT DO YOU MEAN,
YOU CAN'T READ OR WRITE? HOW COULD YOU HAVE MADE
ALL THAT MONEY? JUST IMAGINE WHAT YOU COULD HAVE
BENN IF YOU COULD READ OR WRITE!" "YES, I COULD
HAVE BEEN THE SEXTANT OF THE CHURCH!"

Submitter comment: DAVE TOLD ME THAT THIS IS AN OLD JEWISH WIVES
WHICH DOESN'T HAVE ANY REAL MEANING IN IT, AS FAR
AS HE IS CONCERNED. HE SAID THAT MOST OF THESE
OLD WIVES TALES ARE CORNY AND MEANINGLESS.

Where learned: UNIVERSITY OF DETROIT ; RENO HALL

Subject headings: PROSE NARRATIVE -- Stupid man or woman

Date learned: 09-29-1968

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WINKING OF THE EYE.

Where learned: MICHIGAN ; UNIVERSITY OF DETROIT ; DETROIT ; PARTY ; DORM

Subject headings: SPEECH -- Congratulations Appreciation Appreciation of female beauty

Date learned: 02-15-1971

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WHY A SHAMROCK HAS THREE LEAVES

ST. PATRICK WAS HAVING A HARD TIME CONVERTING THE PAGANS OF IRELAND
TO CATHOLICISM. NEXT HE WENT DIRECTLY TO THE KING, BUT HE FAILED
THERE TOO. ONE DAY HE WAS TELLING THEM ABOUT THE TRINITY BUT THE
PEOPLE COULDN'T CONCEIVE HOW THREE PERSONS COULD BE IN ONE. SO
ST. PATRICK TOOK A SHAMROCK AND POINTED OUT HOW THERE ARE THREE
LEAVES IN ONE ORGANISM. THE KING THOUGHT THIS A LOGICAL EXPLANATION
BECAUSE NO ONE COULD DENY IT. THUS HE WAS BAPTIZED AND HIS SUBJECTS
FOLLOWED HIM.

Where learned: UNIVERSITY OF DETROIT ; RENO HALL

Keyword(s): THREE AS HOLY NUMBER

Subject headings: PROSE NARRATIVE -- Religious hero

Date learned: 09-29-1968

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HOLY SATURDAY

IS TO HAVE THORNS BLESSED WHICH ARE PUT ON THEIR CHIMNEYS IN ORDER

Where learned: MICHIGAN ; UNIVERSITY OF DETROIT ; RENO HALL ; DETROIT

Keyword(s): FOOD CUSTOM ; SWIECZONKA

Subject headings: 663 Holy Saturday
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BELIEF -- Weather sign or control
BELIEF -- Lightning Thunder
BELIEF -- Prayer

Date learned: 10-03-1968

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DRINK

IN GERMANY AT CHRISTMAS THEY MAKE A SPECIAL HOT AND VERY SPICY
RED WINE, MADE WITH CLOVE AND CINNAMON, AND HERBS--FOR THE
HOLIDAY SEASON.

Submitter comment:

INFORMANT ACTUALLY HAD THIS AT A PRIVATE HOME IN GERMANY.

Data entry tech comment:

Updated by TRD

Where learned: MICHIGAN ; UNIVERSITY OF DETROIT ; DETROIT ; TV STUDIO ; TOLD AT

Keyword(s): CHRISTMAS ; CUSTOM ; DRINK ; Germany ; holiday

Subject headings: CUSTOM FESTIVAL -- December 21 solstice to March 20 Single dishes

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JUMP ROPE RHYME

I USED TO JUMP INTO THE ROPE AND SAY,
CINDERELLA, DRESSED IN YELLA.
WENT UPSTRAIRS TO KISS A FELLA.
BY MISTAKE, SHE KISSED A SNAKE.
HOW MANY DOCTORS DID IT TAKE?
1, 2, 3, 4...STOP WHEN YOU MISS A JUMP.

Where learned: UNIVERSITY OF DETROIT

Subject headings: Ballad Song Dance Game Music Verse -- Game Verse Game Verse

Date learned: 10-06-1972

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VERSE

ITS RAINING, ITS POURING,
THE OLD MAN IS SNORING.
HE WENT TO BED AND BUMPED HIS HEAD,
AND DIDN'T WAKE UP TILL MORNING.

Where learned: UNIVERSITY OF DETROIT

James Callow Keyword(s): FEMININE RHYME

Subject headings: Ballad Song Dance Game Music Verse -- Children

Date learned: 10-06-1972

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