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Superstition: Baseball

NEVER MENTION A NO-HITTER TO A PITCHER DURING THE GAME.

Submitter comment:

HEARD IT ON T.V.

Data entry tech comment:

Motifs added by TRD 12.2.2010

Where learned: MICHIGAN ; DETROIT ; ASSUMED

Keyword(s): BAD LUCK ; BASEBALL ; BASEBALL STADIUM ; CHANCE ; CUSTOM ; Fan ; FATE ; jinx ; LUCK ; No-Hitter ; Shutout ; SPORTS ; SUPERSTITION

Subject headings: CUSTOM FESTIVAL -- Entertainment Diversion
BELIEF -- Entertainment Diversion
BELIEF -- Fate Destiny Luck Chance

Date learned: NOT GIVEN

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Superstition: Baseball

BASEBALL PITCHER IS PITCHING A NO-HITTER, NO ONE SPEAKS
OF IT.

Data entry tech comment:

Motifs added by TRD

Where learned: MICHIGAN ; UNIVERSITY OF DETROIT ; DETROIT

Keyword(s): BAD LUCK ; BASEBALL ; BASEBALL STADIUM ; CHANCE ; CUSTOM ; Fan ; FATE ; jinx ; LUCK ; No-Hitter ; Shutout ; SPORTS ; SUPERSTITION

Subject headings: CUSTOM FESTIVAL -- Entertainment Diversion
BELIEF -- Entertainment Diversion
BELIEF -- Fate Destiny Luck Chance

Date learned: 10-16-1967

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Superstition: Baseball

I LEARNED THE FOLLOWING WHILE PLAYING BABE RUTH BASEBALL IN PORT
HURON. "DURING A GAME WHEN A PITCHER IS PITCHING A NO HITTER, IT
IS BAD LUCK TO TELL HIM HOW MANY STRIKE-OUTS HE HAS OR HOW MANY
INNINGS HE HAS YET TO PITCH."

Data entry tech comment:

Motifs added by TRD

Where learned: MICHIGAN ; PORT HURON

Keyword(s): BAD LUCK ; BASEBALL ; BASEBALL STADIUM ; CHANCE ; CUSTOM ; Fan ; FATE ; jinx ; LUCK ; No-Hitter ; Shutout ; SPORTS ; SUPERSTITION

Subject headings: CUSTOM FESTIVAL -- Entertainment Diversion
BELIEF -- Entertainment Diversion
BELIEF -- Fate Destiny Luck Chance
BELIEF -- Bad luck P882.6

Date learned: 10-30-1972

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Superstition: Baseball

IT IS BAD LUCK TO MENTION THAT A PITCHER HAS A NO-
HITTER GOING WHILE THE GAME IS IN PROGRESS.

Data entry tech comment:

Motifs added by TRD

Where learned: MICHIGAN ; DETROIT

Keyword(s): BAD LUCK ; BASEBALL ; BASEBALL STADIUM ; CHANCE ; CUSTOM ; Fan ; FATE ; jinx ; LUCK ; No-Hitter ; Shutout ; SPORTS ; SUPERSTITION

Subject headings: CUSTOM FESTIVAL -- Entertainment Diversion
BELIEF -- Entertainment Diversion
BELIEF -- Fate Destiny Luck Chance
BELIEF -- Bad luck Games Pastimes Sports

Date learned: 10-22-1969

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Superstition: Baseball

THERE HAS BEEN A PREVAILING BELIEF AMONG THE VARIOUS
BASEBALL BROADCASTERS THAT I HAVE HEARD OVER THE
YEARS, IN THE BAD LUCK OF MENTIONING THE FACT THAT A
PITCHER IS WORKING ON A NO HIT GAME. IF ONE MENTIONS
THE IMPENDING NO-HITTER, THE SUPERSTITION GOES, THE
NO-HITTER WILL NOT CONTINUE FOR THE PITCHER WILL HAVE
BEEN JINXED BY THE MENTIONING OF HIS NEARLY COMPLETE
ACHIEVEMENT.

Data entry tech comment:

Motifs added by TRD

Where learned: MICHIGAN ; HARPER WOODS

Keyword(s): BAD LUCK ; BASEBALL ; BASEBALL STADIUM ; CHANCE ; CUSTOM ; Fan ; FATE ; jinx ; LUCK ; No-Hitter ; Shutout ; SPORTS ; SUPERSTITION

Subject headings: Ballad Song Dance Game Music Verse -- Game Pastime
CUSTOM FESTIVAL -- Entertainment Diversion
BELIEF -- Entertainment Diversion
BELIEF -- Entertainment Diversion
BELIEF -- Fate Destiny Luck Chance
BELIEF -- Bad luck P882.2
SPEECH -- Game Pastime Sport S555.522

Date learned: 11-23-1970

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Entertainment: Gambling

In poker, a full house - aces and eights- is a Dead Man's Hand. Supposedly Wild Bill Hickok had this hand when he died.

Data entry tech comment:

Motifs added by TRD

James Callow comment:

Original BN [P880] crossed out/ replaced with current classifications

Where learned: MICHIGAN ; DETROIT

Keyword(s): Aces ; CARDS ; Dead Man's Hand ; DEATH ; Eights ; Entertainment ; Hero ; Legend ; NUMBERS ; Outlaw ; Poker, Gambling ; Wild West

Subject headings: BELIEF -- Secular hero
BELIEF -- Death Funeral Burial
SPEECH -- Folk etymology

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Entertainment: Gambling

Belief:

Aces and Eights - this is the Dead Man's Hand. Wild Bill Hickok was killed in a poler game with this hand.

Data entry tech comment:

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James Callow comment:

Original BN [P880] was written twice and crossed out each time/replaced with current classifications

Where learned: SCHOOL

Keyword(s): Aces ; CARDS ; Dead Man's Hand ; DEATH ; Eights ; Entertainment ; Hero ; Legend ; NUMBERS ; Outlaw ; Poker, Gambling ; Wild West

Subject headings: BELIEF -- Secular hero
BELIEF -- Death Funeral Burial
SPEECH -- Folk etymology

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Ethnic: Ukranian

If an unmarried girl dies, she is buried dressed as a bride, according to Ukranian tradition.

Data entry tech comment:

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Where learned: MICHIGAN ; WARREN

Keyword(s): BURIAL ; Chastity ; DEATH ; ETHNIC ; Female ; Funeral ; Maiden ; UKRAINIAN ; Unmarried ; YOUTH

Subject headings: CUSTOM FESTIVAL -- Death Funeral Burial

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Belief: Animal

The Hoop Snake:

It is believed that a certain snake in the Southwest, the hoop snake, can travel by rgabbing its tail in its mouth and rolling like a hoop.

Data entry tech comment:

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Collector last name possibilities: Ston, Stan, Star, Stor, Stair, Stain, Stoin, Stoir.

Where learned: UNKNOWN

Keyword(s): ANIMAL ; BELIEF ; Hoop ; REGIONAL ; Serpent ; Snake ; Southwest ; SUPERSTITION ; TRAVEL

Subject headings: BELIEF -- Animal

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Belief: Animal

Belief About Snakes:

In many parts of Mexico and South America the snake serves as a symbol of fertility.

Data entry tech comment:

Motifs added by TRD

James Callow comment:

Original BN [B400] crossed out. Replaced with current classification.

Where learned: HOME ; MICHIGAN ; DETROIT

Keyword(s): ANIMAL ; ETHNIC ; FERTILITY ; Mexican ; MEXICO ; REGIONAL ; Serpent ; SIGN ; Snake ; SOUTH AMERICA ; South American ; SYMBOL

Subject headings: BELIEF -- Mammal

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Belief: Weather

The south wind brings wet weather,

The north wind wet and cold together,

The west wind always brings us rain,

The last wind blows it back again.

Submitter comment:

Verse without Music or Prediction Divination

Heard in School

Data entry tech comment:

Motifs added by TRD

James Callow comment:

Dup. of WPP

Where learned: OHIO ; TOLEDO ;

Keyword(s): Compass ; DIRECTION ; North ; PREDICTING WEATHER ; PREDICTION ; Rain ; South: east West ; Wind

Subject headings: Ballad Song Dance Game Music Verse -- Proverb Proverb

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Verse

The Wind:

When the wind is in the East,

'Tis good for neither man nor feast;

When the wind is in the North,

The skillful fisher goes not forth;

When the wind is in the South,

It blows the bait in the fishes' mouth;

When the wind is in the West,

Then 'tis at its very best.

Submitter comment:

Discovered in a paper placement, printed in Rhode Island. Paper then discovered at Audio's Pizzaria in Detroit.

Data entry tech comment:

Motifs added by TRD

James Callow comment:

Dup. of WPP

Where learned: Rhode Island

Keyword(s): Bait ; DIRECTION ; East ; FISH ; Fisherman ; FOOD ; Formula ; North ; Ocean ; PREDICTION ; RHYME ; Sailor ; SEA ; Sky ; SONG ; South ; Sport ; VERSE ; WARNING ; West ; Wind

Subject headings: Ballad Song Dance Game Music Verse -- Proverb C880.890

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Proverb

Too soon old and too late smart.

Data entry tech comment:

Motifs added by TRD

James Callow comment:

Original BN [C880.800] crossed out. Replaced with current classification.

Dup of WPP

Where learned: HOME

Keyword(s): AGE ; Elderly ; Hindsight ; IGNORANCE ; Old ; WISDOM ; YOUTH

Subject headings: PROVERB -- Proverbial Phrase

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Proverb

TOO SOON OLD AND TOO LATE SMART.

Data entry tech comment:

Motifs added by TRD - 01-19-2011

Where learned: TENNESSEE ; NASHVILLE

Keyword(s): AGE ; Elderly ; Hindsight ; IGNORANCE ; Old ; WISDOM ; YOUTH

Subject headings: PROVERB -- Proverbial Metaphor

Date learned: 08-05-1968

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Proverb

Polish Proverb:

Narva miotta dobrze zamiata

Translation: A new broom sweeps clean

Submitter comment:

I know this from my parents.

Data entry tech comment:

Motifs added by TRD

James Callow comment:

Located in pile marked Duplicates and Other Rejects

Keyword(s): BROOM ; ETHNIC ; JOB ; METAPHOR ; New ; POLISH ; Task ; YOUTH

Subject headings: PROVERB -- Proverbial Metaphor

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Proverb

There's no fool like an old fool.

Data entry tech comment:

Motifs added by TRD

James Callow comment:

Located in pile marked Duplicates and Other Rejects

Keyword(s): AGE ; Fool ; Old ; Senility ; Wise ; YOUTH

Subject headings: PROVERB -- Proverbial Apothegm Maxim

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Proverb

There's no fool like an old fool.

Data entry tech comment:

Motifs added by TRD

James Callow comment:

Located in pile marked Duplicates and Other Rejects

KW:PPP

Where learned: OHIO ; TOLEDO

Keyword(s): AGE ; Fool ; Old ; Senility ; WISDOM ; YOUTH

Subject headings: PROVERB -- Proverbial Apothegm Maxim

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Proverb

You can't see the forest for the trees.

Data entry tech comment:

Motifs added by TRD

James Callow comment:

Located in pile marked Duplicates and Other Rejects

Where learned: MICHIGAN ; SAGINAW

Keyword(s): BLIND ; Forest ; Outlook ; Proximity ; TREES

Subject headings: PROVERB -- Proverbial Phrase

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Proverb

You can't teach an old dog new tricks.

Submitter comment:

You can't always teach an old person the enw way certain things are done.

Data entry tech comment:

Motifs added by TRD

James Callow comment:

Located in pile marked Duplicates and Other Rejects.

Where learned: HOME ; MICHIGAN ; DETROIT

Keyword(s): AGE ; ANIMAL ; DOG ; METAPHOR ; New ; Old ; Tricks ; YOUTH

Subject headings: PROVERB -- Proverbial Metaphor

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Retort

You look like you have to study to qualify as a dropout.

Submitter comment:

From his brother, Joe.

Data entry tech comment:

Motifs added by TRD

Where learned: HOME

Keyword(s): COMEBACK ; Dropout ; Graduate ; INSULT ; RETORT ; SARCASM ; SCHOOL ; Study ; Wisecrack

Subject headings: SPEECH -- Formula

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